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John's avatar

Driveway weed killer

Minister Brian Webb's avatar

For clarity: The Note that I’m posting against, is correct, and is a good article. However, to prevent people from misunderstanding the Ban, I’ve provided more information below.

Not in the US, and only partially in Europe. The "borax is banned" claim usually blurs three different things:

United States. Borax (sodium tetraborate) is legal and sold openly as a laundry booster and cleaner (20 Mule Team, etc.). The EPA regulates it as a pesticide ingredient and the FDA does not permit it as a food additive, but there's no ban on the product itself.

European Union. In 2010 the EU classified borax and boric acid as Category 1B reproductive toxicants under the CLP regulation ("may damage fertility or the unborn child"), based mainly on high-dose animal studies. That classification triggers REACH rules that bar selling substances above a certain concentration to the general public. The practical effect: consumer-strength borax largely disappeared from EU shop shelves, though it remains legal for industrial and professional use and in low-concentration products. It's a restriction, not an outright ban — but for an ordinary shopper in Germany or France it functions like one.

As a food additive. This is where a real ban exists. Borax (E285) is prohibited in food in the US, the EU (except a narrow exception for caviar), and most countries, because ingested boron accumulates and causes toxicity. Some Asian countries actively enforce against its use in noodles and meatballs.

The other side. Poison Control and the CDC note that acute toxicity from household borax is low — it's comparable to table salt by LD50 — and real harm comes from ingestion, chronic exposure, or use on broken skin. Critics of the EU classification point out that human data at normal exposure levels don't show reproductive harm. Defenders of it say the animal data justify a precautionary approach. Both positions are argued from data; what isn't supported is the claim that borax was "banned because they discovered it cures X," which circulates alongside the "drink borax" health trend.

Sources:

https://www.poison.org/articles/borates

https://welly.it.com/is-borax-banned-in-the-usa-the-facts-on-legality-safety-and-use

https://enviroliteracy.org/animals/why-is-borax-illegal-in-europe/

https://www.mariegale.com/borax-in-cosmetics-is-it-okay/

Amethyst butterfly's avatar

What a fabulous video. Thank you for sharing.

JVR415's avatar

plus you can make silly putty with it! anyone else remember doing this in elementary school?

bud seigel's avatar

Isn’t Borax a Dr. Seuss character?

Doreen's avatar

Do you mean the Lorax?

bud seigel's avatar

Hahahah my second guess was Thorax! Hahaha I was close!

bud seigel's avatar

And that’s because the EPA, a radical agency of American, hating Christian hating fake environmental protection people who we’re tenacious in bugging and lobbying President Nixon to protect the environment with some kind of agency, so he formed the EPA figuring it’s a good thing to protect the environment, and the first thing they did was declare our oil industry, gas & oil as a environmental evil, and it had to be shut down, of course they never talked about all the plastic companies and other chemical companies that were probably killing birds, fish, and plants every day, nope, it was oil, oil was polluting the world, and they regulated and sanctioned and Taxed our oil industries, causing a gas crisis, by the time Jimmy Carter was president the reforming of our entire energy industry made the Middle Eastern radical Islamic terrorists billionaires so they could take over Iran Lebanon Syria Egypt Morocco in many other countries, they made Hugo Chavez a billionaire in Venezuela so he could take the country into communism by the 90s. This is the only thing the EPA has ever done, they are a weapon for the communist Democrat liberal socialist, Nazi Marxist party, along with their thousands of other agencies, including USAID since 1960 something they must’ve spent trillions of dollars of our tax money pretending to help poverty and prevent violence around the world and look at all the countries that got money from them, Cuba Venezuela, Nicaragua, Honduras, Colombia Iran Iraq Yemen Jordan over 20 countries in Africa and cities like Gaza Istanbul& Bangladesh, more money than anybody could ever count supposedly helping poverty and violence, and if anyone looks at the poverty rate and the amount of violence that has occurred in one of these places it’s obvious that agencies like USAID just like the EPA they do the opposite of what they claim, they are weapons of mass destruction, just like the NAACP they destroyed black Christian communities with that fake civil rights movement fraudulent scammers Liberal Democrat Democrats like Al Sharpton, and Jesse Jackson became multimillionaires, putting Black people in government housing, one of our bureaucrat agencies, the CDC IRS FDA USDA unconstitutional weapons for the liberal Democrats to literally destroy our constitutional freedoms. That’s why nobody ever heard of borax anymore, because the EPA wants everybody to use toxic chemicals to get more cancer more disease, more brain tumors, so only the selected few pharmaceutical communities which are also controlled by the FDA can treat all the illnesses, but of course only the ones that get approved by the FDA to make certain medications in exchange for political donations to these radical communist Democrat campaigns, it certainly isn’t big Pharma or big tobacco or big oil that is the problem. It is big government, and they use unelected officials so they can operate no matter who’s president, so they can literally make law like the EPA has been doing since 1984 Chevron deference, what a bunch of scumbags they should all be in jail

Doreen's avatar

The dilemma is this ... Too few humans know what you know. And if they did know, would they still show up at polling booths to consent/vote for more of the same?

bud seigel's avatar

Well, if all the liberals woke up and found out that liberalism is actually socialism and communism, and they could actually read the speeches of the politicians in the 1920s that were figuring out how to message the public so they would vote for communists, how to change the language, knowing nobody would ever vote for a communist socialist, and and they use the word liberalism, people will vote for liberty, and then add the plethora of other facts how they took over our school systems rewrote our history, books Weaponized immigration, if the public actually knew that almost every single thing every kid has learned in public school and college about religion American history, world history, political science, and agricultural and atmospheric sciences, medical science, if they actually knew for a fact that a lot of it was paid for garbage science designed to harm us, that every public school is designed to create children to grow up and not be married not have babies, all the legislative bills, laws, policies were all designed to create a future of single adult adults that would be into sexual lifestyles, suffer from mental illness, addictions, that it was all for one goal to create a huge population of people in government housing people that wouldn’t make any money wouldn’t be married wouldn’t have babies, and that would lead to the least amount of private property ownership, the end of private wealth, I mean, if everybody actually knew this for a fact, and that if they could see the data that almost all private property almost every home in the United States is owned or was owned by a married couple with Kids that it is the marriage and babies that lead to the most private property ownership the most homeowners, and that this is the agenda of the government to get rid of all that, and for the government to own all the property, to have no more freedom, no more wealth for the citizen and all the wealth to be confiscated amongst a few ruling class overlords, I mean, maybe then, just maybe people would flip out and actually start voting the right way.

Hahaha

wanderer's avatar

Anyone notice how the price went way up? Saw it at Walmart for almost $8.00/box

Susana Cremin's avatar

it's always been expensive, I have used it for a long time as a pesticide since I'm allergic to whatever junk pest people use, which btw doesn't work!

wanderer's avatar

You would know better than me. I just saw it for $8.50 ish and thought I bought it yrs ago for about 3-4 dollars? But I have grown to like it. Still is a cheaper alternative to poison chemicals

Doreen's avatar

The price doubled where I live in Ontario, Canada.

Jj Kannot's avatar

And just tiny amounts of borax and apply to skin at a 5% water solution.

Keep doing that and and experience…

Bitch TOK 4$5's avatar

isn’t borax a good multi purpose cleaner

Jj Kannot's avatar

Yup, cleans everything

Doreen's avatar

Borax is said to have many purposes, so perhaps the answer depends on whom you choose to believe.

JP's avatar

Reading about Health improvement w/ Boron, took me to Borax . Thank you!🙏

Cheramie III%'s avatar

Seems like I remember both my grandmas used it and not for the laundry

AleXnDerDGiray8TedApE's avatar

Boric acid is great eyewash too

(need USP grade) have fixed many a pets goop-eye with it.

Doreen's avatar

A subscriber just sent a PDF you can print to keep borax uses handy.

Bassehound's avatar

Apparently info is in a book called “The Old Ways”. I tried to copy some of the comment about it on YTub but guess they have some sort of crazy thing that happens when trying to copy comments.

Great info TY for sharing.

Rui's avatar

If you open MOSSADTube Comments through a WebBrowser you can copy them, same with Transcripts. Good luck 👍

Bassehound's avatar

Did not say in the comment I read. It sounded like maybe Amish (or Mennonite) oriented since it was related to the video. Found Menard’s does sell it and Walmart when no other choice, but Borax not as easy to find le what I remember as a kid seemed my mom had no problem finding it and no Walmart or Menards where we wete.

Got ectra as I have a rental cleaning job next week.

Bassehound's avatar

Borate is the substance that is great for ants and termites. A certain mixture sprayed in wood soaks into the wood and if termites eat the wood it will kill them.