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Tom Hamilton's avatar

I guess we will see.

Intellectuals and lawyers will discuss. Until all of us are dead.

Never forget the lessons from our neighbours to the south. The Confederate States of America HAD the constitutional right to separate. Lincoln disagreed, and invaded the soverign country of the CSA. After his victory, he rewrote history to defend his bloodthirsty decisions.

History always favours the victors. But again, never forget the most important lesson learned from our neighbours to he south: fighting for the loosing side is not the same as fighting for the wrong side…

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Rock Crusher's avatar

Canada isn't even a country the papers were never signed.

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Doreen's avatar

Thank you Rock. A lot of factual information is denied Canadians. Like other countries, Canada is a fiction of law, a corporation, not a country. At some point I will blog this:

Oxford Law Professor John Finnis’ 2014 Coxford Lecture on "Patriation and Patrimony: The Path to the Charter." Filmed April 8, 2014 London, Ontario https://youtu.be/LiaSlgZ71oU

https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1982/feb/17/canada-bill#column_325 [column on right side]

McNamara indicates it was he, who in the autumn of 1980, suggested the Committee take up the Patriation issue: I asked my colleagues on the Committee to examine the role of the British Parliament in relation to any changes in the constitution of Canada that it might be invited to pass not because I felt that this Parliament had a right to nit-pick about what Canada wanted or did not want for its citizens—that is a matter for Canada, and we cannot properly intervene—but because we had a right and a duty to protest when it appeared that the Canadian Government sought to rubber stamp proposals through this Parliament which they could not get through their own Parliament and provinces under their own procedures. Instead of the British Parliament intervening in Canadian internal affairs, the Canadian Government sought to use our procedures to legitimise what they could not get through in their own country. That was an abuse of their position. [page 56]

As I read it, the UK Parliament supported a Canada Supreme Court ruling that allowed the Canada Act to be patriated without Quebec. This would make the Canada Act 1982 illegal.

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Rock Crusher's avatar

There is no constitution there could be if certain things were to happen section 59/23 these must happen before the constitution could take effect.See what the queen and Iona Campagnolo Lieutenant Governor had to say about it.I have much more. Cheers.

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Doreen's avatar

Hello Rock. Canada is a corporation, a fiction of law not a country. There is a plethora of documents in the legal realm layered across different jurisdictions, cross referenced, 'subject to' and/or amended. Interpretations can conflict pitting man against man. Example:

British North America Act 1867 https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/Vict/30-31/3/contents

S109 Property in lands, mines, &c. : All lands, mines, minerals, and royalties belonging to the several provinces of Canada, Nova Scotia, and New Brunswick at the union, and all sums then due or payable for such lands, mines, minerals, or royalties shall belong to the several provinces of Ontario, Quebec, Nova Scotia, and New Brunswick, in which the same are situate or arise, subject to any trusts existing in respect thereof, and to any interest other than that of the province in the same.

Interpretations Act of 1889, Section 18, Paragraph 3 https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1889/63/enacted

Written by the Imperial Parliament defines a dominion to be a British colony: The expression “colony” shall mean any part of Her Majesty’s dominions exclusive of the British Islands, and of British India, and where parts of such dominions are under both a central and a local legislature, all parts under the central legislature shall, for the purposes of this definition, be deemed to be one colony.

Canada was proclaimed to be a British colony. By definition a colony is not a free, independent country. Does that mean all lands, mines, minerals, and royalties belong to the British monarchy and not to any provinces of Canada?

Does this mean Canada did not actually confederate in 1867?

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Rock Crusher's avatar

Correct everything belongs to Queen Elisabeth 2 or whoever she has willed it to. There is no Canada there is the Hudson's Bay Company.

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mari's avatar

Provinces joined confederation willingly. They logically would be entitled to unjoin. At the time of confederation, I don't think anyone forsaw a prime minister that would come in to rule the peasants and pillage the taxes and force his personal global agenda on the citizens..not to mention, endeavor to shut down resource economy and ignore the contributions and needs of the west.

Those that voted for this lier, cheater, globalist..can have him.

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Rock Crusher's avatar

Correct what ever is done can definitely be undone.

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Patrick Lester's avatar

No Alberta was a territory along with Athabasca, Saskatchewan and Assiniboine who were told you are now Provinces who did not vote to be Provinces. British Columbia voted to become a Province if a national railroad was built and guaranteed low freight rates were granted. This is why natural resources were controlled by Ottawa until 1930. In 1905 a book was written titled Canada and her Colonies exposing how Canada treated Prairie provinces worse than England ever treated her Colonies.

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Doreen's avatar

Thank you Patrick. I did not know that.

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Keith's avatar

Alberta should have a referendum. If we are successful in a vote on secession & there is some clause or loophole that keeps trapped in Canada then what?

Perhaps Eastern Canada can set up concentration camps for us. We’d have to stay there until we finally realize how much you love us.

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Jerry's avatar

All of them.

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Nicole Lebrasseur's avatar

Fantastic Blog Doreen!

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